Wednesday, January 28, 2026

Book of Revelation written before 70 AD

 

 


by

 Damien F. Mackey

 

  

“… if the Book of Revelation was in fact written in AD 96, only twenty-six years after the destruction of the Temple and the Holy City, it is shocking that John

didn’t mention the recent massacre of the city and Temple”.

 

Jonathan Welton

  

Evidence for date of John's exile on Patmos | Christian Forums

 

Taken from the book, Raptureless, by Jonathan Welton, with some comments added:

 

The following are proofs to show that the book of Revelation was written prior to AD 70

Proof #1: The Syriac

 

The first proof for an earlier dating of Revelation is the witness of one of the most ancient versions of the New Testament, called The Syriac. The title page of the fourth-century Syriac Version, called the Peshitto, says this: Again the revelation, which was upon the holy John the Evangelist from God when he was on the island of Patmos where he was thrown by the emperor Nero.

 

Nero Caesar ruled over the Roman Empire from AD 54 to AD 68. This means John had to have been on the island of Patmos during this earlier time period. One of the oldest versions of the Bible tells us that Revelation was written before AD 70! This alone is a very compelling argument.

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: Nero may have, in fact, ruled much earlier than this, disqualifying him chronologically from any action against Saint John:

 

Nero, though intensely wicked, was not St. John's beastly 666

 

(4) Nero, though intensely wicked, was not St. John's beastly 666


Proof #2: 
Revelation 17:10

 

Second, when we look at the internal evidence, we find a very clear indicator of the date of authorship in Revelation 17:10: “They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.” This passage, which speaks of the line of rulers in Rome, tells us exactly how many rulers had already come, which one was currently in power, and that the next one would only last a short while. This accurately identifies the rule of Nero and gives an outline of the Roman Empire of the first century. The succession of the first seven Roman Emperors went like this: “Five have fallen ...” Julius Caesar (49–44 BC) Augustus (27 BC–AD 14) Tiberius (AD 14–37) Caligula (AD 37–41) Claudius (AD 41–54) “One is ...” Nero (AD 54–68) “the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.” Galba (June AD 68–January AD 69, a six-month rule). Of the first seven kings, five had come (Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius, Gaius, and Claudius), one was currently in power (Nero), and one had not yet come (Galba), but would only remain for a short time (six months). From this we can clearly see that the current Caesar at the time of John’s writing was the sixth Caesar, Nero.

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: If my “Nero” article above is on the right track, then it makes a nonsense of this standard imperial sequence, and thus of this Proof #2.

 

Proof #3: Those Who Pierced Him

 

Our third proof is found in the Hebrew idiom “coming on clouds,” … which speaks of God coming to bring judgment on a city or nation.

 

That is what Jesus came to do in AD 70. Revelation 1:7 tells us the target of God’s judgment: Lo, he doth come with the clouds, and see him shall every eye, even those who did pierce him, and wail because of him shall all the tribes of the land. Yes! Amen (Revelation 1:7 YLT). Here, the phrase “those who did pierce him” refers to the people of the first century. At any later time in history, these people would be deceased. Yet, according to this passage, they were expected to be alive at the time of this verse’s fulfillment. This tells us that the prophecy of Revelation 1:7 had to be fulfilled within a short time after Jesus’ death, while His accusers were still alive on earth. In other words, it was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem that happened in AD 70. For this to be true, the Book of Revelation must have been written before AD 70.


Proof #4: Influence of the Jews and Judaizing Heretics

 

Our fourth proof is found in the fact that the activity of the Jewish leaders and Judaizers in the Church is mentioned in the letters to the churches in Revelation. Jesus speaks of “those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan” (Rev. 2:9). This was a clear reference to the Jewish leaders who persecuted the Christians. Also, among the Christians existed a group called the … [Judaizers] who tried to turn Christians back to the old covenant Jewish Law. This was a major heresy in the first century church, and Paul wrote quite a bit against it. Prior to AD 70, both the Jewish leaders outside the church and the … [Judaizers] within the church had a strong negative impact upon believers. About them, Jesus says: I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you (Revelation 3:9).

 

Before the AD 70 destruction, it was advantageous to be a Jew. The Jewish people had a favored relationship with Rome. They were allowed to have their own police force and follow their own Temple system, so long as they continued in subservience to the empire. But all that changed in AD 70, when the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and killed more than a million Jews. Ever since that time, history has not been particularly kind to the Jewish people, and I think it is safe to say that after AD 70 people were not touting their status as Jews. These verses about people who falsely claimed to be Jews only makes sense in the pre–AD 70 context. Since the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70, it has not been advantageous to claim to be Jewish. In this way, these verses point to an earlier dating of the letter. The first century Jews and Judaizers lost a great deal of influence after the destruction of AD 70, because the Jewish religious system had been destroyed and the Jewish population significantly diminished. Only if we give the Book of Revelation an early date of authorship does the significant presence and threat of the Jews and … [Judaizers] make sense.


Proof #5: Existence of Jerusalem and the Temple

 

Along the same lines, the fifth proof of an earlier date is the existence and integrity of Jerusalem and the Temple in Revelation 11. This suggests that the book was written before the destruction of AD 70. On the other hand, if the Book of Revelation was in fact written in AD 96, only twenty-six years after the destruction of the Temple and the Holy City, it is shocking that John didn’t mention the recent massacre of the city and Temple. The sheer unlikeliness that John would omit such a crucial piece of Jewish history tells us that the book must have been written prior to AD 70.


Proof #6: Time-related Passages

 

Our sixth proof is in the time-related passages at both the beginning and end of Revelation. In Revelation 1:1 and 1:3, as well as 22:10 and 22:20, we find internal time indicators that declare “the time is near,” it is “shortly to come to pass,” “he is coming quickly,” and “behold, he comes speedily.” John clearly wrote that the time of judgment was close. This only fits if the book was written before the destruction of Jerusalem.

 

Proof #7: John’s Appearance in AD 96

 

A seventh reason to believe the Book of Revelation was written at the earlier date is the appearance of John in AD 96. Jerome noted in his writings that John was seen in AD 96, and he was so old and infirm that “he was with difficulty carried to the church, and could speak only a few words to the people.” …. We must put this fact together with Revelation 10:11, which says John must “prophesy again concerning many peoples and nations and tongues and kings.” It is difficult to imagine John would be able to speak to many nations and many kings at any date after AD 96 since he was already elderly and feeble.


Proof #8: Timetable Comparison with Daniel

 

Eighth, in Daniel’s prophesy about events that would happen hundreds of years later, he was told to “roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end,” because it was a long way off (Dan. 12:4ff). By contrast, John was told, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near” (Rev. 22:10).

 

While Daniel was told to seal the prophecy up because it was a long way off (about 500 years), John was told not to seal it up because it was about to come to pass. In other words, the prophetic events were closer than 500 years. This only makes sense if the book was written prior to AD 70 and the prophecy was fulfilled in AD 70.


Proof #9: Only Seven Churches

 

Our ninth proof for an early dating of the writing of Revelation is the existence of only seven churches in Asia Minor (see Rev. 1). This tells us that the book was written before the greater expansion of Christianity into that region, which occurred after the fall of Jerusalem.

These nine points strongly point to a dating of the writing of Revelation prior to AD 70. The debate continues in scholarly circles, yet I believe these points are convincing enough for us to move forward with the idea of a pre–AD 70 writing of Revelation.

 

 

Thursday, January 22, 2026

 

 


by

 Damien F. Mackey

  

“While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn,

a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns

were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being 

and a mouth that spoke boastfully”.

 Daniel 7:8

 

Introduction

 

Here, following up on a recent article of mine in which I considered the views of a Seventh-Day Adventist writer concerning the little horn of the prophecies of Daniel:

 

Daniel 7 and 8

 

 (4) Daniel 7 and Daniel 8

 

 

as expressed in his article, “Why Antiochus IV Is Not the Little Horn of Daniel 8”: http://1844madesimple.org/why-antiochus-iv-is-not-the-little-horn-of-daniel-8

I will now consider the views of another writer, an ex-Adventist this time, regarding the identification of Daniel’s little horn. And I shall be in agreement with him.

 

I refer to Winston McHarg  |  14 January 2018  | who will inform us at the beginning of his article:

Why the Little Horn of Daniel 8 Must Be Antiochus Epiphanes – Adventist Today

 

Why the Little Horn of Daniel 8 Must Be Antiochus Epiphanes

Commentary

  

In 1978 I made the most difficult decision I have ever had to make. In spite of my love for my church, my work, my family and friends, I felt compelled by conscience to withdraw from the ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist church. The main reason I took this traumatic, heart-wrenching step was that I had come to disbelieve my church’s fundamental doctrine of a pre-advent investigative judgment.

 

In the first case, the Seventh-Day Adventist writer, I went so far as to accept this conclusion of his: 

 

How much more evidence does one need?  The little horn power of Daniel 7 and the littler horn power of Daniel 8 are both the same entity …

 

About which I commented: “I think that this article has made an excellent case in favour of the truth at least of this last statement”.

 

But then I concluded by leaving the door open on his other view, his emphatic belief that Antiochus IV was not the little horn of Daniel, with this statement: “Regarding Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ himself, though, I intend to tackle that subject in my next article, on the little horn of Daniel 7:8”.

 

The present article will hopefully be the fulfilment of that.

 

Winston McHarg’s contrary view 

 

….

According to the traditional Adventist position the “cleansing of the sanctuary” of Daniel 8:14 is an investigative judgment of the professed people of God. A study of the context of this verse reveals that this unusual interpretation finds no support in this chapter.

 

The symbolism of Daniel 8 centers in the notorious little horn which is described as performing a number of horrific acts. Among other things he is said to take away the daily sacrifices, pollute the sanctuary and persecute the people of God. After witnessing these terrible events in vision Daniel hears two angelic beings speaking to each other. One asks the question, “For how long is the vision concerning the continual burnt offering, the transgressing that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and the host to be trampled under foot?” (v. 13). In verse 14—the answer to this question—the other angel replies, “Unto 2300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed” (K.J.V.). It is clear, then, that the “cleansing of the sanctuary” must involve the destruction of the little horn and the restoration of the sanctuary. The Adventist interpretation totally ignores this context and switches to the theme of an investigation of the professed people of God. This exegesis fails to answer the question of verse 13 and is completely irrelevant to the context of the entire chapter. There is however a simple, straightforward and convincing alternative.

 

Modern Bible commentators are almost unanimous in seeing the Greek king, Antiochus IV Epiphanes, as the fulfillment of the little horn of Daniel, chapter 8.

 

Antiochus Epiphanes was an erratic megalomaniac who made it his express purpose to eliminate the religion of Jehovah from the face of the earth. The history of this evil madman is graphically outlined in the two intertestamental books of Maccabees, which describe a horrific period of desecration and bloodshed during the years 171-165 BC.

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: For my complete historical renovation of king Antiochus, including the dates, though, see e.g. my article:

 

Golden Age of Athens actually belongs to the Seleucid tyrants

 

(5) Golden Age of Athens actually belongs to the Seleucid tyrants

 

Winston McHarg continues:

 

During this terrible period of approximately 2300 days, Antiochus attempted to impose Greek customs upon the Jewish people. Along with many other terrible outrages he banned the continual sacrifices, desecrated the temple by installing a pagan image, poured swine’s broth around the temple and tortured and murdered thousands who refused to abandon their faith. Never before had there been such a blatant, foul and arrogant attempt to totally wipe out the faith of Israel.

 

The well-known scholar, William Barclay, in his commentary on the book of Revelation, details some of the horror of this time:

 

“Eighty thousand Jews were either slaughtered or sold into slavery. To circumcise a child or to possess a copy of the Law was a crime punishable by death. History has seldom, or never, seen so deliberate attempt to wipe out the faith and religion of a whole people.

 

He desecrated the Temple. He erected an altar to Olympian Zeus in the Holy Place, and on it he sacrificed swine’s flesh; and he turned the rooms of the Temple into public brothels …

To the Jews Antiochus was the incarnation of all evil; he is the blasphemous little horn of Daniel; he is the nearest approach to Antichrist in human form.” ….

 

The tyrant’s reign of terror was brought to a totally unexpected end when the pious Judas Maccabaeus, and his sons, rallied the faithful, and incredibly routed the Greek army! It was three years to the day, after the installation of the pagan image, that the sanctuary was cleansed and rededicated.

 

This joyful event was henceforth remembered by the feast of Hanukkah, which was observed in the time of Christ (John 10:22) and continues to be celebrated by Jews today. This stirring story is about to be exploited by Hollywood. Mel Gibson is rumoured to be considering making a film recounting these incredible events.

 

To me, and to most other commentators, the fulfillment of the little horn of Daniel 8 in Antiochus Epiphanes is crystal clear. However, the Seventh-day Adventist church, from its very beginning, has vigorously disagreed with this interpretation. According to the official understanding of the church, the horn is a symbol of both the Roman Empire and the Roman church. This understanding is important to the Adventist church because it is foundational to their centre-piece doctrine of the investigative judgment—which the church believes is one of the special truths that God has commissioned it to proclaim to the world.

 

Without questioning the sincerity and earnestness of my many friends in Adventism, I believe there are many convincing reasons why the little horn of Daniel 8 must be Antiochus. Here are some of them:

 

1. The little horn of Daniel 8 is a Greek horn. Unlike the little horn of Daniel 7, which emerges from the Roman beast [sic], this horn is said to emerge from one of the four horns upon the Greek beast. …. This fact is so plain and transparent that one can only wonder why some have overlooked it.

2. One of the first things that the angelic interpretation says about the little horn is that he is “… a king of fierce countenance…” (v. 23). According to the traditional Adventist view the horn represents a kingdom, namely the Roman Empire. It is hard to see how a kingdom could have “a fierce countenance” and “understand dark sentences.” The angelic interpretation allows no misunderstanding.

3. This king emerges from one of the fourfold divisions of the Greek Empire. “Out of one of them came forth a little horn…” (v. 9). Antiochus emerged from the Seleucid horn which was a division of the Greek Empire. Rome did not; it emerged on the Italian peninsula to the west of the Greek Empire.

4. The horn would arise “in the latter time” of the fourfold division, which pictures well Antiochus’s emergence. The fourfold division of Greece had passed the peak of its power when he emerged, and this is evidenced by the humiliation he suffered at the hands of the Romans while on his way to invade Egypt.

5. The horn would attack the south and east and the pleasant land i.e. Palestine. Antiochus did exactly that. However, when Rome came to power, it expanded in all directions including west to Britain and north to the germanic tribes. This little horn is clearly not Rome.

6. The horn would be noted for his cunning and intrigue. He would “understand dark sentences” and “cause craft to prosper” (v.25). Antiochus was renowned for his craftiness and cunning; Rome more for her brute strength and power.

7. The horn would destroy the mighty and holy people. History reveals that tens of thousands perished as Antiochus attempted to force the Jews to deny their faith.

8. The horn would take away the daily sacrifices (v. 11). Antiochus put a stop to the sacrifices for a period of over 3 years.

9. Antiochus “cast down” the place of God’s sanctuary (v. 11) when he shut down its daily ministry and set up the abomination that caused horror, i.e. the image of Zeus Olympias, and slaughtered swine on the altar of burnt offering. The importance of the sanctuary service lay not so much in the building as in the daily sacrifices and offerings, and by taking these away Antiochus “brought low” (NIV) God’s dwelling place.

10. Antiochus continued for approximately (possibly precisely, it is impossible to determine) 2300 days (v. 14) i.e. from the first attacks upon the sanctuary to his death in 164 BC. One of the world’s leading conservative scholars stated, “In this year (i.e. 171BC) began the laying waste of the sanctuary. The termination would then be the death of Antiochus (164BC).” ….

 

There is no convincing fulfilment of the 2300 days in the history of the Roman Empire and only by a fine-spun linking of the Roman Empire with the Roman church, and a further fine-spun linking of Daniel 8 with Daniel 9 … can Seventh-day Adventists arrive at a closing date for the 2300 days.

 

….

11. In his desecration of the sanctuary and his persecution of true believers, Antiochus did “practice and prosper” and “was exceeding great” (v.9 & v. 12).

One of the major objections to Antiochus as the fulfillment of the prophecy is the fact that he was a relatively minor player on the stage of history. It is sometimes asserted he is not big enough to fulfill the prophecy. This objection fails to take into account the simple fact that this particular prophecy centers primarily on the fate of the people and religion of God. The great theme of this vision is an unprecedented and successful attack upon the saints and true worship. It is IN THIS SENSE that Antiochus practices and prospers and becomes exceeding great.

….

12. That Antiochus is the little horn of Daniel 8 is convincingly confirmed by a comparison with the final vision of chapter 11. This final vision covers much the same ground as chapter 8. Various Persian and Grecian kings, including Alexander the Great, are referred to, but all are dealt with briefly in just one or two verses. As the vision moves towards its climax, Antiochus is once again centre stage, and no less than fifteen full verses are devoted to him (see 11:21-35). Antiochus is clearly no minor player in this vision. ….

 

Summary

 

The vision of Daniel 8 is probably the clearest in the whole book hence the almost universal agreement by both conservative and liberal scholars on the meaning of the symbols. Almost all are agreed that in Antiochus Epiphanes we find a natural, straightforward and convincing fulfilment of the horn who desecrates the sanctuary.

In contrast to the above, the traditional Seventh-day Adventist position wrestles against the most obvious meaning of the passage. Its assertion that the Roman Empire emerges from one of the Greek horns fatally flaws this interpretation from the very beginning. If you take the wrong path at the commencement of your journey, you can expect to arrive in the wrong place. ….


Daniel 7 and Daniel 8

 




by

 Damien F. Mackey

  

A suggestion is made here that Daniel 7 and 8 may contain parallel information,

with the consequence that the one may be shedding helpful light upon the other.

 

 

Introduction

 

Seventh-day Adventist Church article, “Why Antiochus IV Is Not the Little Horn of Daniel 8”:

http://1844madesimple.org/why-antiochus-iv-is-not-the-little-horn-of-daniel-8

has seemingly managed to identify some enlightening parallels between these two chapters of the Book of Daniel – irrespective of whether or not the article has also arrived at the correct conclusion about Antiochus IV.

 

It begins with an overview of opinions on the matter:

 

Crucial to the interpretation of Daniel 8:9-14 is the identification of the little horn power, which dominates these verses. Attempting to identify this little horn, commentators have applied three different methods (preterist, futurist, and historicist) of prophetic interpretation to the texts.

 

Preterists teach that the majority Daniel’s prophecies have already been fulfilled and, therefore, have no present significance. They hold that the little horn rose from one of the divisions of Alexander’s empire; they specifically identify it with the reign of Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175-164 B.C.). 

 

Futurists follow this basic line of interpretation as well, though they see Antiochus as a type of an end-time antichrist appearing in the final years of earth’s history.

 

Historicists declare that the prophecies in Daniel portray an outline of human and ecclesiastical history from ancient Babylon down to the end of time, with the little horn power being identified as the Roman Empire, in both its pagan and papal stages.

….

 

Now, skipping what immediately follows, we jump to what I would consider to be the core of the article (whilst not necessarily agreeing with the identity of the four beasts given below). For my preference on this much-debated subject, see e.g. my article:

 

Four Metal Kingdoms of Daniel 2

 

(4) Four Metal Kingdoms of Daniel 2

 

The Seventh-day Adventist article continues:

 

The best way to understand the prophecy is to study it in context of other chapters in Daniel that parallel it, particularly Daniel 7. By comparing these two chapters, we can learn not only which school of prophetic thought best explains the vision of Daniel 8, but we can see why the identification of the little horn as Antiochus Epiphanes simply isn’t tenable. 

 

Daniel 7

 

With the exception of some voices within the preterist camp, most conservative scholars depict the identity of the four beasts in Daniel 7 as follows:

 

(Lion) Babylon

(Bear)Media-Persia

(Leopard) Greece

(Beast with iron teeth) Rome

 

…. While acknowledging (as all the schools do) that the first beast is Babylon, the preterist interpretation identifies the second and third beast of Daniel 7 as Media and then Persia, with the fourth beast being Greece (which arises after Persia) and the little horn coming out of Greece as Antiochus Epiphanes. This argument, however, falls apart on numerous grounds, including the lack of historical data to warrant that separation of Media and Persia into two successive kingdoms. 

 

In contrast, support for the interpretation of Daniel 7 as being Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome can be found in the interpretation of the ram in Daniel 8. Its two disproportionate horns are specifically identified as the kings of Media and Persia together (vs. 20), reflective of the duality found in the prophet’s view of the bear in Daniel 7, which was raised up one side (Daniel 7:5). Meanwhile, the three-directional nature of the ram’s conquests (Daniel 8:4) also parallels the three ribs depicted in the mouth of the bear (Daniel 7:5), since it expanded to the north (Lydia), to the west (Babylon), and to the south (Egypt), an accurate description of the Media-Persian expansion.

 

Thus, if in Daniel 7 Media-Persia is the second beast, and Greece the third ….

 

Damien Mackey’s Comment: This succession in Daniel 7, apparently finding its parallel confirmation in Daniel 8, makes a lot of sense to me – {which doesn’t guarantee its correctness of course}.

But then I find myself failing to feel fully confident about the next part of the article:

 

(Thus, if in Daniel 7 Media-Persia is the second beast, and Greece the third) then the nondescript beast, the fourth beast in the prophecy, must represent Rome, the great power that arose after Greece. Therefore, the little horn that came from this fourth beast cannot represent Antiochus IV, who arose prior to, and not after, Rome.

 

This is a too neat succession of kingdoms which is neither chronologically nor factually correct.

 

New World Encyclopedia tells correctly that Rome was already very well established at the time of Antiochus IV, and that Rome was in fact calling the shots (not necessarily my BC dates here):

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes

 

Antiochus took power after the death of Seleucus Philopator. He had been hostage in Rome following the peace of Apamea in 188 B.C.E. but had recently been exchanged for the son and rightful heir of Seleucus IV, the later Demetrius I of Syria. Taking advantage of this situation, Antiochus was able to proclaim himself as co-regent with another of Seleucus' sons, the infant Antiochus, whose murder he orchestrated a few years later.

 

War with Egypt

 

Antiochus IV was ambitious and wanted to expand both his territory and influence. He was able to make some inroads into Egypt, ruled by the Ptolemies.

 

In 168 B.C.E. he almost succeeded in conquering Egypt but was prevented from doing so as a result of Roman intervention. The [Seleucids] generally continued Alexander's policy of cultural integration but Antiochus IV was more interested in Hellenizing his subjects. He was especially eager to Hellenize the Jews, who resisted the process and he started to use force to pursue this policy. His father had exempted the Jews from the Hellenizing policy. This led to the beginning of the Jewish revolt of the Maccabees.

His infant son, Antiochus V Eupator, succeeded him.

 

Because the guardians of Ptolemy VI of Egypt were demanding the return of Coele-Syria, in 170 B.C.E. Antiochus decided on a preemptive strike and invaded Egypt, conquering all but Alexandria. He then captured Ptolemy but agreed to let him continue as puppet king. This had the advantage of not alarming Rome. Alexandria thereupon chose Ptolemy's brother Ptolemy VIII (Ptolemy Euergetes) as King. In Antiochus' absence, the two brothers came to an agreement to rule jointly. Hence in 168 B.C.E. Antiochus again invaded and overran all Egypt but Alexandria while his fleet captured Cyprus. Near Alexandria a Roman envoy met him and told him that he must at once withdraw from Egypt and Cyprus. Antiochus said he would discuss it with his council, whereupon the envoy drew a line in the sand round him. Were he to step out of the circle, the envoy said, without having first undertaken to withdraw, he would be at war with Rome. Antiochus agreed to withdraw.

 

[End of quote]

 

I now return to the Seventh-day Adventist article, which - while it has now disqualified king Antiochus IV from being Daniel’s ‘little horn’ - provides a series of compelling parallels between the description of the horn in Daniel 7 and 8.

 

Whoever this may represent - and I myself strongly believe that it was Antiochus IV - the combination of descriptions in Daniel 7 and 8 ought greatly to enhance our efforts to arrive at an identification. 

 

Thus, if the little horn in Daniel 8 is an entity that came out of Rome, not Greece, what is its relationship to the little horn in Daniel 8? Could the little horn in Daniel 8 still be Antiochus Epiphanes, even though the little horn in Daniel 7 cannot? Though it’s certainly possible that it could be referring to two different powers, significant arguments exist in favor of identifying the little horns in these two chapters as the same historical entity.

 

1)    Both are identified with the same symbol: a horn

        7:8ff, Aramaic, qeren    8:9 ff, Hebrew qeren 

2)    Both are described as “little” at the outset.

        7:8, Aramaic, zerath    8:9. Hebrew, serath   

3)    Both are described as becoming “great” later on.

       7:20, Aramaic, rab     8:99ff, Hebrew, gadal

4)    Both are described as persecuting powers.

       7:21, 25          8:10, 24

5)    Both have the same target group as object of their persecution.

       7: 27 “people of the saints,             8: 24 “people of the saints”

       Aramaic, am quaddise             Hebrew, am qedosim Cf. vss. 21, 25                                                

6)  Both are described as self-exalting and blasphemous powers.

      7:8, 11, 20, 25    8:10-12, 25 

7)  Both are described as crafty and intelligent.

     7:8 “eyes of a man”     8:25 “cunning and deceit” 

8)  Both represent the final and greatest anti-God climax of their visions.

      7:8-9, 21-22, 25-26       8:12-14, 25 

9)   Both have aspects of their work delineated by prophetic time.

       7:25      8:13-14 

10)  The activities of both extend to the time of the end.

        7:26-26, cf. 12:7-9    8:17, 19 

11)   Both are to be supernaturally destroyed.

        7:11, 26    8:25

 

How much more evidence does one need?  The little horn power of Daniel 7 and the littler horn power of Daniel 8 are both the same entity …

[End of quote

 

I think that this article has made an excellent case in favour of the truth at least of this last statement.

 

Regarding Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ himself, though, I intend to tackle that subject in my next article, on the little horn of Daniel 7:8.